June 15, 2014 Montreal QC
Monday, July 28, 2014
Montreal W.P.R.
Monday, July 21, 2014
Saugus in August (it rhymes)
Due to the fact that Nicks terribly unfunny posts arent getting many comments and the fact that everyone actually hates summer, I figured I'd post the teams we talked about having this next season and in the hope that we start playing sooner rather than later. Yes yes we've talked about this before, but I think this year we can do it with all 10-12 guys having a pretty high attendance percentage.
Here are the teams that we talked about and came to an agreement on.
Jared
Nick
Mike D
Mike W
Frendon
Andrew
Whatever other goalie shows up
Borges
Johnny
Griff
Billy T
Austin
Elliot
Brett (G)
Here are the teams that we talked about and came to an agreement on.
Jared
Nick
Mike D
Mike W
Frendon
Andrew
Whatever other goalie shows up
Borges
Johnny
Griff
Billy T
Austin
Elliot
Brett (G)
Saturday, July 5, 2014
The Email Games (Part Two)
-----Original Message-----
From: Martino, Brendon [mailto:brendon@mitre.org]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:49 PM
To: Riley, John J. - Information Technology
Subject: RE: stats
Ok, something is definitely out of whack here. (Too Easy)
Before you posted the stats (which were the last three weeks worth), I was 59 and JB was 69. Minus 10.
Before Sunday, there were two weeks of stats, and each week I gained a point on JB, bringing me to Minus 8 (yes, I wrote down his point
totals each week).
This week, I gained 8 points, so that's EVEN with his points.
So how exactly am I down a point on him???
John’s Response is perfect:
From: Riley, John J. - Information Technology [RileyJJ@chesterton.com]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:53 PM
To: Martino, Brendon
Subject: RE: stats
Look at what you sent me. You gave yourself an assist to Borges when you weren't even on his team:
Sunday Feb 13, 2011
Teams: Game 1
White Team
Darrin (G)
Nick
Mike D
Brendon
Billy T
Jared
Dark Team
Steve (G)
Griff
Mark
Matt P
JB
Dale
Game 2 & 3, switched Brendon and Mark
-----------------------
Score: 4-1 - Game 1 - scorer (assist)
White: Jared (Mike D)
Dark: Dale (Matt); JB (Mark); JB (Brendon) (hahahaha...how great is that?) JB (Matt P)
Score: 4-2 - Game 2 - scorer (assist)
White: Mike D (Billy); Jared (Billy); Jared (Mike D); Jared (Billy)
Dark: Matt P (Brendon); Brendon (Matt P)
Score: 1-1 - Game 3 - scorer (assist)
White: Jared (unassisted)
Dark: Brendon (unassisted)
To be fair Brendon probably turned the ball over to JB in Game 1. It was probably his best setup of the year. I would have given him the assist personally.
From: Martino, Brendon [mailto:brendon@mitre.org]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:58 PM
To: Riley, John J. - Information Technology
Subject: RE: stats
Something got messed up then. I definitely assisted him once that week....however, we had (as usual) inexperienced and uninterested people taking down stats. (I can only assume Ashley was there that week) A lot of them were filled in after all the games were over. (who would be involved in this?)
I'll see if I can dig up the old stat sheet and see what went wrong (I might have thrown it out though). (“hopefully it was done in pencil”)
In the meantime, there is still one other point I have in my records that is unaccounted for (not part of this conversation, nor the one a
few weeks back about a missing assist that wasn't written down).If I send you a list of all my points week-by-week, do you think you can match them up against the db and see which weeks there are discrepencies? (spelling)
Thanks
Are you ready for a Math Popsicle headache?
From: Martino, Brendon
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:32 PM
To: Riley, John J. - Information Technology
Subject: RE: stats
I understand that you don't have time now. Don't feel obligated to do this asap: With the past two "corrections" where I lost an assist each time, due
to bad record-keeping, I still have 76 points in my records, which is one more than the books. Here is the breakdown of what I have recorded
week-by-week:
date goals assists points
9/19/2010 4 1 5
9/26/2010 2 0 2
10/3/2010 1 2 3
10/10/2010 1 1 2
10/17/2010 0 1 1
10/24/2010 3 4 7
10/31/2010 0 0 0 (shootout goal, in game 2. Not
counted as regular gamewinner or goal)
11/7/2010 1 0 1
11/14/2010 1 3 4
11/21/2010 0 CANCELLED: MS MEETINGS, ETC.
11/28/2010 1 2 3
12/5/2010 1 4 5
12/12/2010 3 4 7
12/19/2010 1 1 2 (sadly, he has accepted that the stats were written correctly.)
12/26/2010 0 CANCELLED: SNOW
1/2/2011 0 CANCELLED: not enough people
1/9/2011 0 CANCELLED: not enough people
1/15/2011 1 2 3
1/23/2011 2 5 7
1/30/2011 3 5 8
2/13/2011 2 1 3
2/23/2011 5 0 5
2/26/2011 5 3 8
TOTALS 37 39 76
There must be some other discrepency (spelling) that happened prior to the week of 1/30/11. It appears to another missing assist. (38 vs 39 total) - but which week? I'm guessing it was one of the two weeks before that week, since all the stats were posted in bulk yet again. (cant you do them weekly???)
If you could just take a look when you get a chance and tell me which
week you have a point discrepency (spelling), I'd like to see if there was any glaring mistake that we can figure out (although it's so long ago it seems unlikely unless it was one of the weeks we happened to get some video).
No rush. Thanks
Friday, July 4, 2014
Thursday, July 3, 2014
The Email Games (Part One)
Johnny Im impressed. Note that this was during the JB vs Frendon season. Enjoy everyone!
From: Brendon Martino [mailto:brendon@mitre.org]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 8:44 AM
To: Riley, John J. - Information Technology
Subject: Re: Hockey Sunday, Outdoor rink @ 5:30
Hey John, When you get a chance, can you make sure I got credit for 1 goal and 2 assists on the stat sheet....I can only remember two assists (seems like I should have had about 6 assists on the night but we just couldn't finish at times)...One was where I tagged Nick accidentally and the other had the other team questioning whether it was an intentional pass or a shot (it was intentional, but either way it counts, right?).
I'm not sure Ashley wrote everything down so you might want to double check it. Thanks -B P.S. Who would know about Mike Ward's condition..... Jared?
Translation:"Hey I know you actually have to focus on your job during the day but I need a stat check! 1 goal and 2 assists, right!!!???!! Im not sure you are aware but I could have had 6 assists last night! What could have been??!!?? If Sidney Crosby was my center I could be beating JB!!!! Its a good thing Nick is a premiere finisher or I would have had just one assist! Im not sure if you are aware but Ashley did the stats! Ashley! Keep an eye on her. Do you know who her husband is???!!?? Double check it because I smell a conspiracy!"
P.S. A ton of concern for Ward over here! You think he needs hockey tape?
John's Response:
From: Riley, John J. - Information Technology [RileyJJ@chesterton.com] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:06 AM To: Martino, Brendon Subject: RE: Hockey Sunday, Outdoor rink @ 5:30
No problem, I'll take a look and let you know. Jared would be the one, but I've texted Mike too so I'll let you know if he gets back to me.
A Different Email Exchange about a month later:
From: Martino, Brendon Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:49 AM To: Riley, John J. - Information Technology Subject: RE: Hockey Sunday, Outdoor rink @ 5:30
Hey, I know you probably won't get to the stats right away since you're dependent on your work PC, etc. but when you do get around to them I just wanted to give you the stats I have for the last 3 games we played:
date goals assists points games wins
12/19/2010 1 2 3 3 2
12/26/2010 CANCELLED: SNOW
1/2/2011 CANCELLED: not enough people
1/9/2011 CANCELLED: not enough people
1/15/2011 1 2 3 3 1
1/23/2011 2 5 7 2 2
TOTALS 22 31 53 40 22
It's been over a month since the 12/19 game and I just wanted to make sure that all the stats get corrected since I got shafted an assist somehow on that day in the books..... If everything is written down right, by my count I should have 53 points. Let me know if something doesn't check out on your end. Thanks -B
Lol. He is still mad about the Ashley game!
Translation:"It's been over a month since the 12/19 game and I just wanted to make sure that all the stats get corrected since I got shafted an assist somehow (Ashley Borges) on that day in the books.....
If everything is written down right (by Ashley Borges), by my count I should have 53 points. Let me know if something doesn't check out on your end (If not its because Ashley didnt write my stats down correctly). Thanks -B
1 week later (black bolded added by me):
From: Martino, Brendon [mailto:brendon@mitre.org] Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 9:11 AM To: Riley, John J. - Information Technology Subject: RE: Hockey Sunday, Outdoor rink @ 5:30
John, When you updated the stats last week, you still didn't update the assist I was missing. I should have 53 points before last night, plus the 8 points from last night = 61. I would be trailing Borges by only 9 points now. I can send you my complete week-by-week list if you want in order to compare to see what you're missing. It's hard enough to catch him when Borges called back goals or assists of mine in the beginning of the year -- remember the first goal of the year I asisisted you on? It was called back. So were a lot of them. ("I have one example it has to be true a 100 times then!") I wrote them all down. ("this time I didnt let Ashley control the sheet! Im on to them!") But I'm not going to get short-changed when an assist or goal is actually written down on the paper and everyone agreed that it counted. Why is it that I find this happening so much? I can remember
when I first started this (It was Reggie's Idea actually) that people were complaining that they should have more stats than got credit for....that's supposedly why you took over (yes we wanted accurate stats believe it or not)....so what's wrong with your system? Did you give the missing assist to someone else? Someone with a similar name, like > Brad? (that has a "BR" in it! Just like my name!! Did Brad get credit for my stat!!!) > The assist in question came on 12/19/2010 (Also know as the "Ashley game")- I got credit for only 1 goal and 1 assist, but should have been 1 goal and 2 assists. It's too far gone to recall the exact circumstances of each assist, but trust me, it was written on the paper, and not by me. (that doesnt make it seem like you wrote the assist in at all)
I think Ashley was keeping score that game. (you dont say?) Can you please check on that this week when you update the stats? I'm tired of falling behind just because my points aren't getting written down. (1 assist is killing the stat race. Can you guess who didn't write it down?) Thanks -B
John's response:
From: Riley, John J. - Information Technology [RileyJJ@chesterton.com] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:42 AM To: Martino, Brendon Subject: RE: Hockey Sunday, Outdoor rink @ 5:30
I had gone back last week to the stat sheet that you were referring to and there was no assist that you said. It was only one goal, one assist. It was not on the paper.
Frendon's response:
From: Martino, Brendon [mailto:brendon@mitre.org] Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 10:48 AM To: Riley, John J. - Information Technology Subject: RE: Hockey Sunday, Outdoor rink @ 5:30
What?? Are you sure? I always look at the stats after the game...I wrote it down right afterwards...are you sure there wasn't some other name that was close to mine like Brett or Brad that was illegible??
Wednesday, July 2, 2014
The Day the Stats Stood Still -OR- How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Sham
Brought to you by a "Former Blogger"...
TIME FOR ONE MORE RANT! WAHOOOO!!!! (Brett, eat your heart out!)
The "career" stats page is a joke. Or should I say "carrer"??
http://thehomeoftherecap.blogspot.com/2008/12/carrer-stats.html
There's no consistency and so many stats are so way off. And before you start saying that I think only MY stats are off - no, EVERYONE's Stats are off.
Consider this:
Dave Riley supposedly has the best GAA for goalies, with a 2.84 GAA. However, isn't 142 divided by 43 = 3.302 GAA?? Sooooo, your computer did that bad math, did it John?
I know, maybe he did it backwards: 43 / 142 = oops, nope. That comes out to .302 so that can't be it...Hmmmmmm.
Was that just a copy and paste mistake? Oh, ok. How about your GAA, then, John? 185 divided by 56 is 3.30357, NOT 3.032 as you posted it. Actually, it looks like for many of them they may have been done backwards (e.g. you divided #games by #goals instead of the other way around) because John's 56 games divided by 185 goals = .303, which is only one decimal place off from what he posted. So multiply by 10 and there you go.
....I Think I know what he will say. The total games are off because he counts PARTS of games, and that throws everything off, right? Ok. I guess we have to buy that since no one but you can see the secret formula for computing these stats. Yup, that make sense. I mean, John seized control of the stat kingdom back in 2006 like the Nazis invading Poland. All because he claimed that the current maintainer wasn't doing a good enough job and the stats were somehow wrong. Even though everything was out there in the open plain to see. And it was updated regularly. But all that had to change so he could make the stats look more like what he wanted them to look like. Did you know that he only counted HALF of our 2006-2007 season because he didn't like the stats for the first half of the year? Go ahead and look at how many games are counted from that season. For those of us there, you know we played way more than that. It's not like that first part of 2006 didn't happen. Good thing I kept all those stats for posterity. Maybe someday we can get them reinstated. Or maybe we should just let him use his database for his own personal use (as is the custom these days), and instead we can start fresh with some legit stats. Moving on...
Personally, I don't care about vague and unrelatable stats such as "highest scoring teammates" or "team strength". I'm sure Cindy ranks pretty high on that last one, so that makes for good stats, doesn't it? How about you start tracking a USEFUL stat, like plus/minus?? I'm sure Cindy would end up as a negative one hundred and something. Now THAT is a stat comparison that we can all agree is RELEVANT.
Enough about calculation mistakes and useless categories; perhaps we should take a look at the Wins and Win % table. Does the number of total games played match with any other games total, including the number of games in the points table? Go ahead and compare. I guess John decided to update everything except that table for several years, huh? Isn't all this supposed to be generated at once by his database output? I'm sure he has a reasonable excuse for that too. After all, no one knows what's going on behind the scenes anyway so we'll just eat up any old excuse that he hand-feeds us that sounds remotely plausible.
This is too negative. Let's focus on some things that I love about this page.
I love the way all sorts of players with only a handful of points show up on lists that are ordered by a percentage. So Joel's goal percentage is about 19% huh? But he only has 11 goals in his illustrious "career"? Yeah, that's a huge sample size. I'm glad you included Danno's 8 goals on that list. That's relevant. No, don't bother filtering the lists to say, a minimum of 20 or 30 games played for a better sample size. No, that wouldn't make sense.
I like how there's no rank # column next to any table list so I can't see where I rank among it. At least I know I'm somewhere near the "middle" of most lists, and that's pretty good, I guess. No need to quantify that.
I like how some new players who have played with us for two seasons now already have surpassed EIGHT people on the bottom of this version of the points list. That's two years, now and no update. Wait, sorry, I forgot to read the update on the page: "updated 5/8/11" ... Ok, that's THREE years then. Well, at least that means everything older than 3 years is up-to-date, right? Wait...Dale is listed as playing only 56 games since 2006...Hmmm... according to the 06-07 page, Dale played 34 games. He then played 7 more in 07-08. He then played...uh oh..56 games in 08-09! Looks like John arbitrarily decided to start counting certain people's career stats at a certain year. Okkkkayyy...and yes, it's different for other people too. Ok, I'm sure he has a valid reason for that...
I can't do this anymore. All this bad math is making my brain explode! Or is it IMPLODE?! AHHH! John, do us all a favor: don't fix the stats. Don't do any more updates. Fix them for your own personal use if you feel like it, but please save us the trouble of having to digest any more nonsense. It's been a joke for years. Mildly entertaining. Somewhat interesting. Completely innaccurate. Personally, I keep my own stat "database" in a simple spreadsheet, because, well, pretty much everyone has Excel and it can be shared quite easily. No it can't do your fancy scoring-combination tracking or team strength percentages....But I'm pretty sure 87.94% of all bloggers didn't really care about that anyway.
Yes, I keep the stats, but no, I don't want to replace John as stat-keeper for the blog. I don't blog anymore anyway. This was all written by a ghost writer. :) Maybe someone else will step up to the plate and give us a nice presentation of how he plans to do a better job than John with the stats by 1) being accurate 2) updating in a timely fashion and 3) making the process transparent so there is no "hidden" formulas for calculating things.
Lastly, I hope none of you think you can figure out who I am. I'm a mystery, like WPR and BigBoard -- no one really knows who I am, and any claims will be denied. Because I made it really hard to guess who I am and this entire page is shrouded in mystery. So don't even bother. Thanks Nick for posting this for all to see, and until I have something else to complain about through Nick, I bid you all farewell for now!
P.S. If anyone wants to see some REAL stats from the past 8 years or so....I do have them up on a different blog site...but I'm sure you won't ask for access to that blog since I am so terrible at keeping track of stats....... :) lol :-P roflamo :-)))))) rabble rabble rabble!!!!!!!!!!
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